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[Dana]

http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/classes/sarlacc-enforcer

Greatest. April Fool's joke. EVAR. I especially loved the combat technique movies...
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[PhantomNuker]

Lol! indeed
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teh nuker is not the light at the end of the tunnel
teh nuker..... is..... your..... DESTRUCTION!!!!!

[Grand Master Sef]

nice. i signed up for the BETA. me likes the War of Stars too much to not try it...at some point. BETA preferably.
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[PhantomNuker]

WTH!!!! three posts
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teh nuker is not the light at the end of the tunnel
teh nuker..... is..... your..... DESTRUCTION!!!!!

[Ravage]

Reiteration at its finest.

[Prometheus]

Damin where did you get the Red Skull at? That is a great Avatar.

[Ravage]

From the 1940's.

Actually, I think it was in a Cracked article I was reading.

[Plague]

now it is only one post.
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"Never fear, I is here!"
Jared Sellars (a.k.a. Plague)

[Grand Master Sef]

must have been an error. i only posted that once. Old Republic sounds fascinating. Bio Ware style acting and choices which affect how your character develops and reacts to other players and even receives drops. i can't say no to that. i just may not be playing from day 1 unless its amazing.
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[Grand Master Sef]

found this on the SWTOR forum. Good detailed listing of the game made up by a guy who has gone through reading dev stuff & content provided on the site. Good overview of what they plan for the game.

TESTING Signups Started: - Signup Here!
TARGET RELEASE Date: Spring 2011 Release Note

Planets

For more details on each planet visit the Holonet here: Planets

* Coruscant

* Capital of the Republic.
* Coruscant seems to be split into levels such as Senate, Works, Gang areas - Dev Dispatch (Coruscant)
* Lots to explore on Coruscant, you can see for miles and miles - Dev Dispatch (Coruscant)
* Social areas on Coruscant such as the Spaceport and Galactic Senate - Dev Dispatch (Coruscant)

* Tython

* Tython is a planet of forests and ancient ruins - Dev Blog (find balance in the force)
* Starter Planet for Jedi Knight & Jedi Consular

* Ord Mantell

* Starter Planet for Smuggler & Trooper
* The planet is embroiled in civil war
* The planet contains mainly Saltwater seas and Islands

* Belsavis

* Prison world maintained by the Republic
* The ancient prison was constructed by the Rakatan Empire
* Ice Covered with Small Pockets of Volcanic Temperate Zones

* Dromund Kaas

* Capital of the Sith Empire.
* Home to the Emperor and his Dark Council, is a planet consumed with dark side energy.

* Korriban

* Starter Planet for Sith Warrior & Sith Inquisitor
* Red, rocky desert planet
* Original home world of the Sith

* Hutta

* Starter Planet for Bounty Hunter & Imperial Agent
* Swamps and Industrial wasteland

* Balmorra

* Republic forces are supporting the local resistance on this planet.
* The planet is Occupied by the Empire

* Alderaan

* Alderaan is a mix of landscapes from Snow capped peaks to rolling plains to Forests
* Several of Alderaan’s noble houses are battling for the throne in a brutal civil war

* Tatooine

* The planet's surface consists mainly of Seas of Sand and Rock
* Ex Czerka Corp mined planet. Imperial presence on planet

* Taris

* Taris is a post-apocalyptic planet with plague infested swamps
* Mention of 'vertical' enviroment aspects that maybe similar to Coruscant where you have different levels of the planet to explore - Dev Dispatch Video (Taris)

* Voss

* Covered in golden forests, Voss is home to both the Voss, a peaceful mystic species, and the Gormak, a species with an amazing affinity for technology.

* Possible dozens of planets in game - Gamespot TOR 2008



Characters/Classes:

For Released Classes Visit here: Classes

Jedi Knight

* Based on 'Mace Windu' and 'Anakin Skywalker'. Lightsaber focused with some Force powers - Bioware
* Abilities include: Force Push, Saber Throw, Impale and Blaster Deflection - Holonet
* Has an ability similar to the SW when he can leap into combat - Combat Dev. Vid.
* Jedi Knight uses force points similar to that of the Sith Warrior to charge up the special moves - PC Gamer Jan 2010
* Quote: The Jedi knight can fill a couple of roles in combat. In one-on-one combat, the Jedi knight is practically unmatched in melee power - Gamespot "Jedi Knight"
* Players who enjoy fast melee combat will identify with this class - Gamespot "Jedi Knight"
* Quote: At its core, the Jedi knight is about getting into battle as quickly as possible, dominating the fight and protecting allies - Gamespot "Jedi Knight"
* Double Bladed Lightsabers shown on Holonet for Jedi. - Holonet (Outfitting)

Jedi Consular

* Quote: "The key element of the Consular’s story is mystery, using intelligence and courage to seek the truth." - Dev Blog (finding balance in the force)
* Quote: "We wanted to capture the journey of Obi-Wan Kenobi – someone who begins with unusual insight and talent, but who is still growing into those powers" - Dev Blog (finding balance in the force)
* Quote: A Jedi Consular must sometimes accept the grayer path, the less perfect choice - Dev Blog (finding balance in the force)
* Quote: From what we were shown, this class is far from being a simple caster. Part melee, part puppeteer, part healer; the Jedi Consular could end up filling multiple play styles - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Quote: "The Jedi consular is more based in telekinetics" - Gamespot Dec 3rd
* Abilities seem to include Mind Maze, Force Pull, Force Slam, Benevolence, Meditation, Clear casting & Force Repulse - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Consular is a rear line support fighter not a front line melee. - PCGames Translation
* Consulars can use the doublebladed Lightsaber - Holonet


Smuggler:

* Abilities seen during the live demo at Pax include: Groin kick, Headshot, Triple Rocket, Flash Grenade, Cover shot and Barrage - GamesSpot Pax Day1
* The smugglers quests seem to start with their ship being stolen. - Various sources.
* The subclasses for Smuggler are Gunslinger and Scoundrel - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Scoundrel: Short Ranged, Stealth based Damage and Medicine - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Gunslinger: Long Range, Dual Pistols and Persuade - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Cover system shown working, Smuggler can select from a Silhouette of the PC or arrows to move to cover- VO Video
* Smuggler is the only class that can shoot while running away - Multiple Reviews
* When using cover the Smuggler gains a defence bonus, this is show on the mob that he is hiding from by a green symbol above the targets head - Developer Walkthrough

Trooper:

* Hinted that the two paths a Trooper can take are either a Crowd Control or all out DPS branch - Destructoid GDC 2010
* Trooper is the Heavy Weapons specialist as well as using Heavy Armour, The big gun is his friend - Official Site
* Updated Trooper Abilities: Hammer Shot, Rifle Grenade, Full Auto, Sticky Grenade and Stock Strike - Darth Hater GDC 2010 Trooper
* Recharge & Reload ability is the Troopers Out of Combat self heal - Darth Hater GDC 2010 Trooper
* Mentioned by a Dev during the Q&A that the Trooper is a Ranged Tanking class - Darth Hater Q&A PAX Day3

Sith Warrior:

* Based on Darth Vader. Lightsaber focused with some Force powers - Bioware
* Lightsaber knockback ability seen during Video, similar to force push but with a LS - Combat Dev. Vid.
* Can use a Single, 2 Handed or Dual wield Lightsabers - Designing the Darkside
* Sith Warrior can spec in to either DPS or deflecting front line fire - GamesSpot (GamesCom)
* Sith Ability of 'Channelled Hatred' Shown as a Out of Combat self heal - EuroGamer HO (GamesCom)
* Sith Warrior abilities seen during demo at Pax include: Force Leap, Slash, PowerSlash, Impale, Smash and Force Choke - GamesSpot Pax Day1

Sith Inquisitor

* Based on Palpatine. Forced ranged class with some melee - Bioware
* They can use at least either Doublebladed or Two Handed Lightsabers - Holonet
* Quote: The Sith Inquisitor’s ability to manipulate electricity is unmatched among force users - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Quote: "lightly armoured, acrobatic, and uses lots of lightning abilities and telekinetics" - Gamespot Dec 3rd
* Abilities include Vicious Saber, Electrocute, Backlash, Overload, Wirlwind and Discharge - Designing the Darkside
* More abilities include: Lightning Drain, Dark Gift and Dark Meditation - Darth Hater Extravaganza


Bounty Hunter:

* Bounty Hunters Story Arc is called 'The Great Hunt' - SifiWire
* Can duel weild pistols as seen in video - Combat Dev. Vid.
* A harpoon and drag ability seen, pulls enemy from distance to close range - Combat Dev. Vid.
* BH can Carbonite freeze targets - Combat Dev. Vid.
* Can fire a rocket from his backpack to attack enemies - Combat Dev. Vid.
* BH has an ability where he can jet pack from distance to close range and attack an enemy - Combat Dev. Vid.
* Technology is the main weapon for the Bounty Hunter, using all the latest gadgets to catch his mark - Official Site
* Abilities seen in demo vids at pax inc: 'Death from above', Flamethrower, Electro Dart, Grenade and Rockets - GamesSpot Pax Day1

Imperial Agent

* Imperial Agents work behind the scenes to get the work of the Empire done - Darth Hater IA
* Abilities include Toxic Dart, Shiv, Sleep Darts, Laze Target (air strikes) and Explosive Probe Droid - Jake Neri Interview DH
* Agents can use cover also they can stealth - Jake Neri Interview DH
* 'Shiv' is close range Vibroblade attack. - Darth Hater IA Walkthrough
* IA is more of a tatical class than an all guns blazing one - Darth Hater IA Walkthrough

General Class Information:

* Quote from James Ohlen: "There are certain powers that you can unlock or have locked away from you as you level up" - PC Gamer UK April 2010
* Current Stats seen in game are - Cunning, Presence, Willpower, Strength, Agility, Accuracy, Absorb percentage (Armor Value), and Armor Rating - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Each class seem to have multiple armour/cloth sets. At least 20+ per class noted in the recent Dev Dispatch (1.30) - Designing the Darkside
* Facial Tatoos and hair available on Player Characters - Designing the Darkside
* Quote: "commitment to deliver an enjoyable Star Wars experience above all else and suggested that this outlook also influenced the game's character design" - Gamespot 11th Dec
* It seems that once you reach level 20 your subclasses are opened up to you. - Videogamer.com Dec 3rd
* Realistic looking robes, with and without hoods seen - Combat Dev. Vid.
* Characters can be customised to be unique, details not revealed - Darth Hater Q&A PAX
* Full Body and Facial expressions while speaking - StarWarsMMO Demo
* Different coloured Lightsabers available in game - VO Video
* There is a World/Galactic Story and your Personal Class Story - Darth Hater Q&A PAX
* There is an END to each classes Story with new content to extend each story- MMOGamer
* It seems that each class has two sub classes and you must decide which to choose - PCGames Translation


General:

* Quote: We want to make sure that when people play ToR they feel like they never run out of content... that it's an epic story - CVG March 2010
* Quote from Ray Muzyka: "We want people to feel like they're playing their own personal non-linear fiction" - Total PC Gaming Issue 28
* Music from both the KOTOR 1,2 and all the movies will be heard in TOR plus new scores - Darth Hater the Audio of TOR
* Testers shown using level 30 characters in PvP in Dev. Dispatch Video - Designing the Darkside
* Only being released for PC, No Consoles or MAC. - IGN Q & A
* TOR to be made in English, French and German - Eurogamer (GamesCom)
* Naming Filters include not being able to have numbers, special characters or Star Wars names - StarWarsMMO Demo
* They are trying to make TOR available to People with a mix of PC quality Old and New- StarWarsMMO
* The class design has been made so that we will not get forced to group with specific other professions- Gamespot 11th Dec


Gameplay

* When a weapon is powered up for a stronger ability it glows, various colours - Combat Dev. Vid.
* Quote: "provide a directed and balanced game experience inside a lush, free-form Star Wars world" - Dev Blog Damion Schubert
* Quote: Yes, we have anti-twink measures. Yes, high level players get shut out if they kill creatures too far below them. - XP Damion Schubert
* Quote: Yes, compared to other MMOs, we give you more XP for completing quests and less for killing creatures. - XP Damion Schubert
* Quote: The general gist is that we want to reward grouping, but not so much that grouping is the only way to play the game - XP Damion Schubert
* Quote from James Olhen: "Fighting and questing is going to be 90+% of what you will be doing" - PC Gamer UK April 2010
* Quote from Daniel Erickson: Subject Solo'ing: "There will be content you never see, but you can play from first level to last level solo." - G4TV GDC 2010
* Characters can Jump!- StarwarsMMO
* No Permadeath - Confirmed by Dev Damion Schubert
* The game is not aimed at the Hardcore player but the Star Wars, RPG and Bioware Fans- GamesRadar
* 200+ Hours of game play per character - Gamespot 2 Vid.
* The aim is to remove Grinding - multiple reviews.
* Macros in game. /dance shown in macro during PAX live demo - DH Pax Dissection
* Quote: While players can use some pieces of cover no matter what class they play, some are better at it than others. - MMORPG GDC 2010
* Certain abilities require certain weapons to be equiped as seen in the recent Dev. Video- Designing the Darkside
* Rather than focusing on the Standard class format of Tank, Healer and DPS Bioware seems to be putting fun first and foremost in class design - Gamespot 11th Dec
* When you die you get the option to Revive at a 'Med Center' - Coruscant and Trooper HD Video (TheNoNews.com)
* All classes get a 'Out of Combat Healing ability', maybe something as simple as a medipack - G4 (GamesCom)
* Healing: Several classes can heal, Healing is NOT a requirement of TOR and healing has been done with a twist in TOR - IGN Q & A


Species

* NOTE: No details revealed yet of what playable species are in game except that there will be more than just human.
* Quote: The players will have the option of creating non-human player characters - Darth Hater the Audio of TOR


Inhabitants and backgrounds

* To see who or what you could meet in TOR click: HERE!
* To Learn about some of the background of the key players in the game click: HERE!


Companions:

* By gaining friend/foe points with Companions you unlock events/abilities later in game (21.20) - Gamespot Stage Video
* Companions will be able to be customised so that everyone will not be running around with the same Wookie template etc - PC Gamer UK April 2010
* If grouped with friends, their companions will also interact with you during dialogue scenes as you talk to others - PC Gamer UK April 2010
* Companions are summoned and dismissed at will using the 'Summon Companion' command - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Companions can Tank, DPS and also heal - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* We know that the Sith Inquisitor has at least a Dashade and a Kaleesh species companion - PC Gamer Jan 2010
* If you play a Force class you can get a companion as an Apprentice - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Quote: BioWare plans on using companion characters to solve the “looking for tank/healer” problem seen in other MMOs. - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* You will only be allowed to have one companion out at any time. - Multiple reviews
* They will level up as you do - PCGames Translation
* You can NOT allocate your companions abilities or talent points - PCGames Translation
* You CAN manipulate your companion in certain ways such as going Darkside - PCGames Translation

Combat:

* No Auto Attack - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews
* Combat abilities can be used while moving, Sith Inquisitor seen using force Lightning in PvP while moving - Combat Dev. Vid.
* NPC AI does seem to be aware of its surroundings, They take cover and the move away from other NPCs that may cause them harm etc - Developer Walkthrough
* Depending on if you use either a single or duel Lightsaber you will gain abilities the other does not - GamesSpot (GamesCom)
* Combat has been designed towards PvP - IGN Q & A
* TOR is more an action based Combat system rather than the standard MMO style in other games - IGN Q & A
* All classes will also have their ranged as well as close combat skills - MMORPG Comic Con
* Synchronized combat. Lightsabers actually clash etc - GamesRadar
* While seeing the Combat in the Flaspoint its seemed very like Battlefront with 10 vs 2 combat - StarWarsMMO Demo
* When engaging NPCs the NPC switched from Ranged to Melee as the Players got closer - StarWarsMMO Demo + VO Video
* Combat was more fluid not stiff like KOTOR - StarWarsMMO Demo
* Cooldowns on the skills were very short, and the skills themselves were swift, immediate- EuroGamer
* Duel use of Lightsabers shown. - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews + VO Video
* Short cooldowns and Channeling of abilities shown - VO Video


Factions & Alignment:

* Only two factions revealed in TOR Republic and Sith - General Info.
* Planets do not seem faction locked, opposing factions seen on emeny planets: Sith on Ord Mantell etc. - Combat Dev. Vid.
* They are looking into adjusting characters looks based on their Light/Darkside alignment - Sean Interview GDC
* There will be NO switching of sides on initial release of TOR, but maybe in future updates - Sean Interview GDC
* The more Dark/Light Side you go you gain access to more abilities that lean towards that calling that going the other way denies you. - GameSutra
* You can play as a Neutral character such as a Grey Jedi, Confirmed - Live Q & A session Comic Con.


Social/Interaction

* Quote :"There is exploration, there is combat, it is a wide-open world" - MMOGamer - Blaine Christine
* Quote: "Going to have crafting and harvesting, going to have guilds and social activities" - MMOGamer - Blaine Christine
* Quote:" “Hey, if I’m really into more the crafting, harvesting, auction house type of gameplay, are you going to support that?” "Absolutely" - MMOGamer - Blaine Christine
* PvE Server confirmed if you do not want to PvP, thus confirming that there should be PvP servers - Darth Hater Q&A PAX
* Player housing is something BW/LA NOT discussed - Massively Pax


Environment

* It seems as though there is no collision detection (you can walk through NPCs etc), as seen at 18.33 - Gamespot Stage Video
* Improved visuals: Realistic smoke effects seen during video - Combat Dev. Vid.
* One of the ways to cover large distances in Cities is by using a Taxi - Fan Friday 23rd April
* Quote From Daniel Erickson: "One of the real things we wanted to show at GDC this year is that our worlds are huge, actually. They are giant, you can explore. They are massive. You can just wander off one direction and go forever." - Darth Hater GDC 2010 DE
* Quote from James Olhen: "Our public areas are one contiguous world", "Not just our cities - 90% of the game, actually, will be areas where you can run into other players" - PC Gamer UK April 2010
* Quote from James Olhen: "Its not going to feel like a heavily instanced game" - PC Gamer UK April 2010
* Quote: Based on your actions you get to determine what happens on 'Taris' and it will be refected in game@ 4.38mins - Dev Dispatch Video (Taris)
* Phasing used alot during TOR to make Enviroment changes personal - Darth Hater Q&A PAX
* Weather effects, lightning and rain, seen on Dromund Kaas - Dromund Kaas flyby
* Tiered Maps are in game. Your mini-map and world map change to reflect what level your on- Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Function called 'Call Shuttle' available which will auto return you to your current home waypoint, like Hearthstone in WoW- Darth Hater Extravaganza
* The environment reacts to the player character, such as guards saluting - SWTOR-Station (GamesCom)
* A space Experience will be in game, its still being worked on - Machinima
* Localised instancing - When getting/handing in a quest you are the only one at NPC - MMOGAMER + VO Video (See 4mins 58 Sec)

Voices & Dialogue

* Alien Dialogue has Subtitles - Developer Walkthrough
* Quote: all of the player characters will speak basic. Inc the Non Human - Darth Hater the Audio of TOR
* Dialog selection via a Mass Effect Style Dialog wheel - Multiple reviews + VO Video
* Quest Dialogue can change depending on what other player classes you bring with you during quests - VO Video
* Full Voice overs for all NPC, Companions and Player Characters - VO Video
* There are Persuade options for certain dialogue - VO Video
* Options to read text, instead of hearing, or even skip to it altogether - Darth Hater Q&A PAX Day3
* There is one Male and One Female voice per Class - Sean Dahlberg

User Interface:

* Basic 12 Button UI with built in Radar, XP Bar, Player and Target Portraits - VO Video
* During the recent Dev. Dispatch you could see extra toolbars being used by the game testers on top of the standard 12 (4.14) - Designing the Darkside
* Buffs and current applied abilities show above the Health Bar of the Player - VO Video
* Player made UI Supported -Goha (GamesCom)
* Inventory shown: Chest, Pants, Bracers, Boots, Hands, Left & Right Melee, Left & Right Ranged - Developers Walkthrough
* Inventory shown: Other slots also shown that seem to be for Rings, Trinkets etc - Developers Walkthrough
* 2 Tabs of 24 bag slots shown as inventory space- Developers Walkthrough
* Built in Quest Helper System, similar to Warhammer, in game. Points you in right direction for quests and indicates progress. - Darth Hater Extravaganza
* Inventory shows slots for both Melee and Ranged, maybe there is a function to switch from one to the other during combat - Developer Walkthrough


PVP

* It looks possible that Open World PvP is available in game as seen in Video (ofc it could just be a PvP Server)- Combat Dev. Vid.
* PvP is in TOR - Multiple Interviews
* Quote from James Olhen: "We're going to have open world PvP, As for the more structured PvP, I can't going into details but we will have it" - PC Gamer UK April 2010
* Small amount of PvP action shown between 3 players during Dev. Video (4.00) - Designing the Darkside
* Confirmed that you do NOT have to PvP in TOR, its an option if you want too - IGN Q & A
* Richard Vogal during an interview said that Battlegrounds were available - Games Reactor
* Loot sets also seem to be in game, possible mutliple PvP sets mentioned - Gamespot Smuggler


Raiding

* Quote: "We're looking at classic [endgame] systems, but we're also doing something brand new that hasn't been done in an MMO before - CVG March 2010
* There will be raiding but no details have been released - Multiple Reviews
* End Game Content like Raiding is available if players do not want to re roll- MMOGamer


Flashpoints/Loot:

* The game is based on standard MMO loot collection. In regards to Lightsabers it seems that you will gain new lightsabers rather than improving an exisiting one - Massively TOR 2008
* There are repeatable Flashpoints and General Content in game - Darth Hater Q&A PAX
* TOR does seem to be item/stat based game, LightSaber picked up in game shown with Stats on - Developer Walkthrough
* Loot seems to be based on Light/Darkside as well as class. - Multiple Interviews
* Choices in Flashpoints can change the course of the instance. Kill a NPC and 'A' happens.. do not kill and 'B' happens. - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews
* Mentioned that during a solo Flashpoint (dungeons) friends can be invited at anypoint while doing quests- GamesRadar
* Group decisions in Flashpoints (Its mentioned that BW are still working on how to apply LS/DS points depending on outcome).
* A rolling system has been seen during Voice Over/Story sections when a Party is involved. It seems to indicate who gets to speak first- VO Video


Crafting

* Quote: We are going to have crafting, because that's a big part of MMOs. We're going to implement crafting in a way that 'feels' right for Star Wars. - Massively TOR 2008
* Quote: We’ve spent quite a bit of time discussing how to ensure that crafters – true dedicated crafters – can make a name for themselves and be important in their community. - Dev Blog Damion Schubert


Release Information:

* Quote: EA confirms that Star Wars: The Old Republic won't hit the market until after March 31, 2011 - Toms Hardware
* Quote: When we release the game, it's high quality, very polished - that's the key to MMO success and that's why you see so many MMOs come out and stumble - Digital Spy (James Ohlen)
* Quote: We want to make sure that when people play the game, that people don't run out of content - Digital Spy (James Ohlen)


Accounts/Payments

* Note: Nothing official has been said about payment methods, Micro transactions or any other subscription based financing for TOR yet.
* All payment and Subscription methods are still being looked into - Darrell Rodriguez Interview


Servers/Hardware

* Quote from James Olhen: "The number of players per server will be comparable to WoW" - PC Gamer UK April 2010
* Mentioned by Sean in an Interview that they are considering that if your in Europe and want to play on a US server they will allow it - SWTOR-Station (Sean)
* They are looking into seperate servers for PvP, RP etc as an option. - StarWarsMMO
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[Grand Master Sef]

so who read the wall of text? no takers?

here is so more info on the game...just released. very small read time, like 1-2 minutes depending how retarded you are.

ADVANZD KLASSSSESSESSES
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[Dana]

I did read the whole thing, it sounds interesting. Not sure if I want to play it, though. Like most games, they go to great length describing the combat system but when it comes to player economy, crafting, exploring, etc., they give the standard: "oh yeah, that's in there too, and you'll love it."

The thing that attracted me most to SWG was the crafting & start-your-own-business system. You could specialize in so many things under the old 33-profession system w/ skill trees. Yeah, there was lots of grinding, but in the end it was worth it, because you could literally run your own little "company" in-game and be successful at it. Then you add SWG's awesome player community system (good chat engine, HUGE emote listing, social areas, player cities, player housing, entertainer buffs, etc) where players are actually *encouraged* to get together and interact in a non-instanced way, and you've got a game that will keep you coming back time after time.

I hope SWTOR has all that, but I'm not holding my breath.
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